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Friday 25 January 2013

The jaded vegan infertile

My girls are home and so is my beautiful wife.  I'm happy ... although still busy and alittle tired.   I've done well at sticking to my diet and Scout has been very good too, even while she was away.  The diet was a 30 day vegan challenge and I only have 1 week left now.  It's been easier than I expected to be honest (considering I've always been a meat eater) and I've learnt a lot of new recipes which I'll keep using but I'm not sure if I will continue with the strictness of it all after the 30 days.  I've been concerned about all the soy products which they say aren't good for fertility.   I've also been a bit uncomfortable with not having any dairy.  The dieticians at work seem to think it's ok as long as I drink other non animal milks that are fortified with calcium etc and make sure I get enough protein and other vitamins from other sources ... But they don't know I'm TTC.  Anyway I think I've only been concerned because of the fertility issue.  Apart from that I'm actually not minding it (which has surprised me) and I feel better for it, so I'm starting to feel alittle torn about the idea of going back to my old diet now which I wasn't expecting.  I thought I'd do the challenge and then just go back to eating meat and dairy but in a healthier way.  Now I'm not so sure.  At this point I think the only reason I would return to eating meat and dairy is for fertility reasons.  Crazy but true.  I never thought I'd ever want to be vegetarian let alone vegan but it appears my conscience is finally catching up with me.  Of course I don't expect our kids or Scout to follow suit ... and right now I'm still not sure if I will actually make it a permanent thing for me or not, so I guess I'll just wait and see how I go.  Clearly the fertility thing is something I'm going to have to give more thought to.  

Speaking of the fertility thing ... I've started on the BCP again.  Another week or so and I'll be sniffing syneryl.  I'm not overly excited about the prospect of another stim cycle next month but time isn't exactly on my side given I turn 39 this year.  So we are trying again ... But if this one fails we will be taking a break.  Financially this next cycle will be a push for us to cover as it is.  We have until egg collection to come up with the cash.  It will be more expensive this time too because it's a new year and I need to meet the safety net limit again to be eligible for the Medicare subsidy.  My private health insurance only covers the cost of my hospital bed for egg collection and transfer and because it's a new year I'll also need to pay a $500 excess to them again as well.  All up it's about $11,000 including the hospital fees and I'll need to pay $9,500  at egg collection.  If I could take the money factor out of the equation, I imagine I would be able to cope a bit better with the prospect of repeated IVF cycles.  It would still be shit but at least I'd have hope.  Instead, my hope now seems to be limited by our bank account.  When our bank account runs out, my hope will run out too.   As much as I desperately want to get pregnant and have a baby ... I have to confess that 'baby making' is no longer an exciting prospect for me.  It feels like some emotionally driven financial extortion with bankruptcy being our only guarantee.  Yes, I am officially bitter and jaded ... and I wish I wasn't, but that's where I'm at when I think about IVF and doing it all over again.  It's hard to be positive about something that's only ever served up pain and disappointment with a hefty bill to boot.  Anyway, we will see how we go, but I'm certainly not looking forward to any part of this next cycle.

6 comments:

  1. don't you wish that our finances didn't play such a huge role in whether or not we can get the help we need to try to get pregnant? ug, its so frustrating.
    i dont think i could ever go vegan, i give you so much credit for even considering it.

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    1. Well I guess I can be grateful I don't have a more serious or life-threatening condition that my finances are limiting the treatment of. The vegan thing is actually not that bad but I know what you mean. I like the taste of meat and dairy and I do miss it but I think I know too much about how it gets to the plate now to enjoy it.

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  2. Ugh, I hate that money has to be such a big factor in getting pregnant :(
    On the vegan topic - I got pregnant second try and was vegan throughout my whole pregnancy and I have never been healthier. There is a lot of conflicting advice about soy but I believe in balance and moderation so I still ate soy but not a heap. I choose oat milk and other non-soy options whenever available. It has to be better for us than milk designed for baby cows though!

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    1. Hey! Glad to see you're still around :). I'm trying to keep the soy to a minimum but clearly you can't avoid it completely. I've been working my way through all the non dairy milks but am yet to give oat milk a go, so I'll get some. Thanks!

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  3. So sorry to hear about your troubles! I know when I researching the route you are going, it was going to be more expensive than we could hope to accomplish. So, I am sure you are having a rough time of it. I will keep sending you positive baby making thoughts from my corner of the world!

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    1. Hi Rachael - Thanks for your support :). I am still working my way through your blog! I'm up to Sept last year right now but hopefully I'll be up to speed soon.

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Friday 25 January 2013

The jaded vegan infertile

My girls are home and so is my beautiful wife.  I'm happy ... although still busy and alittle tired.   I've done well at sticking to my diet and Scout has been very good too, even while she was away.  The diet was a 30 day vegan challenge and I only have 1 week left now.  It's been easier than I expected to be honest (considering I've always been a meat eater) and I've learnt a lot of new recipes which I'll keep using but I'm not sure if I will continue with the strictness of it all after the 30 days.  I've been concerned about all the soy products which they say aren't good for fertility.   I've also been a bit uncomfortable with not having any dairy.  The dieticians at work seem to think it's ok as long as I drink other non animal milks that are fortified with calcium etc and make sure I get enough protein and other vitamins from other sources ... But they don't know I'm TTC.  Anyway I think I've only been concerned because of the fertility issue.  Apart from that I'm actually not minding it (which has surprised me) and I feel better for it, so I'm starting to feel alittle torn about the idea of going back to my old diet now which I wasn't expecting.  I thought I'd do the challenge and then just go back to eating meat and dairy but in a healthier way.  Now I'm not so sure.  At this point I think the only reason I would return to eating meat and dairy is for fertility reasons.  Crazy but true.  I never thought I'd ever want to be vegetarian let alone vegan but it appears my conscience is finally catching up with me.  Of course I don't expect our kids or Scout to follow suit ... and right now I'm still not sure if I will actually make it a permanent thing for me or not, so I guess I'll just wait and see how I go.  Clearly the fertility thing is something I'm going to have to give more thought to.  

Speaking of the fertility thing ... I've started on the BCP again.  Another week or so and I'll be sniffing syneryl.  I'm not overly excited about the prospect of another stim cycle next month but time isn't exactly on my side given I turn 39 this year.  So we are trying again ... But if this one fails we will be taking a break.  Financially this next cycle will be a push for us to cover as it is.  We have until egg collection to come up with the cash.  It will be more expensive this time too because it's a new year and I need to meet the safety net limit again to be eligible for the Medicare subsidy.  My private health insurance only covers the cost of my hospital bed for egg collection and transfer and because it's a new year I'll also need to pay a $500 excess to them again as well.  All up it's about $11,000 including the hospital fees and I'll need to pay $9,500  at egg collection.  If I could take the money factor out of the equation, I imagine I would be able to cope a bit better with the prospect of repeated IVF cycles.  It would still be shit but at least I'd have hope.  Instead, my hope now seems to be limited by our bank account.  When our bank account runs out, my hope will run out too.   As much as I desperately want to get pregnant and have a baby ... I have to confess that 'baby making' is no longer an exciting prospect for me.  It feels like some emotionally driven financial extortion with bankruptcy being our only guarantee.  Yes, I am officially bitter and jaded ... and I wish I wasn't, but that's where I'm at when I think about IVF and doing it all over again.  It's hard to be positive about something that's only ever served up pain and disappointment with a hefty bill to boot.  Anyway, we will see how we go, but I'm certainly not looking forward to any part of this next cycle.

6 comments:

  1. don't you wish that our finances didn't play such a huge role in whether or not we can get the help we need to try to get pregnant? ug, its so frustrating.
    i dont think i could ever go vegan, i give you so much credit for even considering it.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Well I guess I can be grateful I don't have a more serious or life-threatening condition that my finances are limiting the treatment of. The vegan thing is actually not that bad but I know what you mean. I like the taste of meat and dairy and I do miss it but I think I know too much about how it gets to the plate now to enjoy it.

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  2. Ugh, I hate that money has to be such a big factor in getting pregnant :(
    On the vegan topic - I got pregnant second try and was vegan throughout my whole pregnancy and I have never been healthier. There is a lot of conflicting advice about soy but I believe in balance and moderation so I still ate soy but not a heap. I choose oat milk and other non-soy options whenever available. It has to be better for us than milk designed for baby cows though!

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Hey! Glad to see you're still around :). I'm trying to keep the soy to a minimum but clearly you can't avoid it completely. I've been working my way through all the non dairy milks but am yet to give oat milk a go, so I'll get some. Thanks!

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  3. So sorry to hear about your troubles! I know when I researching the route you are going, it was going to be more expensive than we could hope to accomplish. So, I am sure you are having a rough time of it. I will keep sending you positive baby making thoughts from my corner of the world!

    ReplyDelete
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    1. Hi Rachael - Thanks for your support :). I am still working my way through your blog! I'm up to Sept last year right now but hopefully I'll be up to speed soon.

      Delete

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